Monday 23 April 2012

Hitler in Venezuela

This is weird Venezuela: below you can see the distribution of those Venezuelan voters whose first name (not surname) is "Hitler". Anzoátegui and Caracas have more Hitlers than other states, but the percentage of Hitlers in Delta Amacuro or Barinas (Chávez's state) is higher. It is not coincidence that 90 years ago the states with the lowest school attendance in Venezuela were Delta Amacuro and Barinas. There is a guy in Barinas whose full name is Hitler Maolenin Leañez Aponte. 


10 comments:

  1. Hitler Mao Lenin....please tell me that it was merely a coincidence.

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  2. Ask his mother.
    If you type in the Venezuelan ID 15486424 in the CNE site you will see where that person votes...in Barinas.

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  3. There is Carlos the Jackal, whose original name is Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, named for Ivan Illich Ulyanov, a.ka. Lenin. Stalin Gonzalez was a student who was involved in oppo politics some years back. Not to mention Nixon Moreno. I have a vague memory of having met someone named Lenin or the like during my time in Venezuela.

    Definitely interesting how many Venezuelans are named for notorious politicans. If Stalin, Lenin, and Nixon, why not Hitler ? Not that I would like having any of those for my name, mind you. Being named Hitler or Stalin would seem to me to have a fate similar to that of A Boy Named Sue.


    One example of a political name in the US is Chesa Boudin, whose name combines Che [yes THAT Che] and South America. Probably because of his leftist pedigree- son of Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, raised by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn while his parents were in prison- within several days of his arrival in Venezuela he went to work in Miraflores. He wrote a book- Gringo- about his travels.

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    1. Luis Betancourt17 June 2012 at 21:56

      The Jackal's brothers are named Lenin and Vladimir. FYI.

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  4. Hi, Tejano. Lenin's name was actually Vladimir. We also have a lot of Vladimirs, specially born in the sixties and seventies, even if that name is completely Slavic.

    We have Lenins galore (Hitler Maolenin is a variant) and also many Stalins and even Estalins for the linguistically challenged. Most are to be found in poor regions, but not exclusively (the Chacal's dad was a millionaire "communist").

    There are a couple of Supermans, as I reported earlier. But I haven't found Batman, which is devastating news in these days!

    Go to the CNE site
    http://www.cne.gob.ve/web/index.php
    and type in the ID 15992053 in the cédula field
    and tell me what you find.

    How's the book by that Chesa? How Che-esy! But Randy is worse, ask Sue.

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  5. Lenin's name was actually Vladimir.

    Correct.I don't know what I was thinking about- maybe Tolstoy. [The Death of Ivan Illich]

    type in the ID 15992053 in the cédula field and tell me what you find.
    OMG- Reagan Khomeini! Reagan by day, Khomeini by night? Or vice versa?

    How's the book by that Chesa?
    As a travelogue, it is entertaining. Except for his stay at Miraflores, courtesy of his leftist pedigree, he took the backpacking route through Latin America, which speaks well of Chesa. The following passages do not necessarily speak well of Chesa:

    In Chavez's Venezuela, the country — from the poorest barrios to the highest positions in government — was actively discussing how to best put into practice policies that would be relegated to the realm of pure theory in the United States.
    In most countries, politics is about the art of finding compromises, about what's known to be possible. In Venezuela, I saw politics in action in a whole new way.

    As Marta put it, politics here was the art of making possible tomorrow what appears impossible today. Venezuela's voters had the audacity to hope for a better system, to imagine that radical alternatives to the Washington Consensus could improve their country.
    [page 118]

    And there is yet more credulity:

    His (Chávez) speaking style was erratic…yet captivating. He …relied on sheer charisma to carry the crowd..
    Well, that is pretty accurate reporting. No credulity there.

    Since that night in the theatre I’ve watched Lula Inácio Lula da Silva speak. I've heard how Evo Morales, the president of Bolivia, talks to a crowd; and Rafael Correa, the president of Ecuador… Words on a page cannot capture the contagious energy they inspire…For an outsider it takes strong nerves to stand in the midst of such crowds and endure the ecstatic screaming that greets their leader’s arrivals. But it’s only by doing so that one can fully appreciate the political shift the region has lived throught since I first traveled to Guatemala in 1999.

    It is true, perhaps, that Latin America has been home to more than its share of caudillos, or strongmen leaders, but when else in the region's history have so many democratically elected, progressive, charismatic leaders been in power at the same time?
    [From p 122]
    Does he realize that many caudillos achieve and maintain power with the assistance of their charisma?

    But I suppose that is the best one can expect of someone who was raised by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn.

    A factor in my leaving the libs and becoming a wingnut was my reaction to the likes of Billy, Bernadine, and Chesa.

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  6. Or perhaps it was also One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn? That was a good one as well :-)

    Reagan Khomeini votes in the primary school The Little Dead, El Muertico...village of El Muertico, School Street, left of nameless street, right of nameless road, in Apure. 76.92% of the people there voted for the PSUV in 2010, more than the average of 60.52%, in a very pro-Chávez state. He was born on 23 August 1981.
    Priceless, isn't it?

    You can see clear trends for those news-motivated names.

    I have been analysing the CNE registry in general and there are so many weird things at so many levels!

    I didn't know about these Ayers and Dorhn characters until you mentioned them. It is quite incredible how those useful idiots fall for strongmen..."charisma, charisma"...shouldn't that contradict their idea of a People's revolution?
    And it will always be like that. A US American I know who was so enthralled by Chávez for several years and later "saw the light" became now enamoured with the French lefty Mélenchon. I told him: oh, man, here you come again, here you are discovering another líder.

    I find extremists of all colours absolutely creepy.
    Stay tuned, there is more to come on the CNE records.

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  7. 1979 Boat People26 April 2012 at 10:20

    Is there anyone named Fidel Castro Jr. in Venezulea?.:)

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    1. Do you mean Fidel Castro as first names (both)? I didn't check as Fidel (first name) Castro (surname), but there are 4 Fidel Castro + Surnames.
      You can check out in the CNE electoral registry:
      There are
      Fidel Castro Moron Ramirez (ID: 6427458)
      Fidel Castro Marin (ID: 5479748)
      Fidel Castro Petit Valbuena (ID: 7722795)
      and
      Fidel Castro Urdaneta Contreras (ID 9789553)

      Actually, 1979, we have also one
      Ezequiel Ho Chi Minh Moncada Pérez (ID 13446623)
      and one Ho Chi Minh Jaimes Rojas (ID 16084982). The first one was born in 1977 and the second one in 1982.

      We also have a Cleopatra Disney.

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    2. 1979 Boat People26 April 2012 at 12:32

      Kepler,

      Thanks for the info.

      "Ho Chi Minh..." names gotta be from the commie parents who insanely named their childrens with that kind of name.

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