Today the EU discussed about Venezuela. It won't be the last time this year.
The Venezuelan ambassador in Brussels already declared the Chavez regime would see it as an interference by the EU if it were to approve a resolution about Venezuela (of course, unless the resolution says how wonderful Hugo Chávez is).
Italian Giusto Catania and Spanish Willy Meyer, euro-deputies from the extreme left, already declared their support for the regime and mentioned anything the EU would declare would be intervention... the usual stuff we hear from the extreme left about human rights in Belarus, Burma and so on.
Just a couple of hours to go for the real discussion...
These eurocrats work until late. At 23:45 they started to discuss about Venezuela. There were a handful of them plus the interpreters. 5 deputies talked very negatively about the current government and said they should start asking for forgiveness to the Venezuelan people for the way the EU has cooperated with Chávez. Marios Matsakis talked about the growing inequality, about Chavez portraying himself as saviour of the country, about the fact that when Fidel is dying the world is seeing a new Fidel appearing.
Jose Millan Mons was very negative towards the Chavez regime, he mentioned RCTV, Baduel, the insecurity, the fact that Chavez is insulting everyone and destabilizing the region, that he is a danger.
Alojz Peterle said Venezuela is getting away from the values of democracy and human rights
and that Chavez is a threat for the relationships between Europe and Venezuela and within Latin America and that Chavez is just promoting more power for one person, himself.
Jose Ribeiro Castro talked about the disasters of the socialism of Lenin and others in the XX
century and he asked himself if we would see another disaster now with the Socialism of the XXI Century, he talked about the violence against the students, the attacks against journalists, the closing of RCTV. He talked about the lack of social justice and the fact that when politicians start to talk about "popular power", they were usually actually dealing away with it.
He referred to the increase of violence in general, to the Colombian/Venezuelan conflict.
Marios Matsakis mentioned that in spite of the oil revenues, poverty as prevailing and social justice was worse, that when Fidel was dying in Cuba, the EU was witnessing a new Fidel being born in Venezuela, that the EU should ask itself if it should not ask for forgiveness to the Venezuelan people for having helped the Chavez regime through all those commissions and committees and he finally said the EU should say how sorry it was for Venezuela.
Luis Yáñez-Barnuevo García (moderate Socialist, PSOE) said the EU should not use words to provoke, that Chavez was reelected three times without any doubt (from his part, I suppose) and that Venezuela is not a dictatorship. He said dialog was necessary and big reforms could not be passed by a simple majority but by something like 70%. He mentioned that he is worried when he sees the increasing concentration of power, the deterioration of human rights and a phenomenon Europeans do not know: the so-called cadenas where people are forced to watch Chavez or his people talking not for minutes but for hours and where most of the population could not read (thus, I assume, "have to watch TV"). He said the EU should promote the dialog.
Now Chavez's people:
Alain Lipietz, left from the Green (there are "red" and "blue" versions of Green)
said when he was in 3 to 4 star hotels during his visits to Venezuela, the upper middle class
was talking there that there was no democracy, but he had "no right to see the public TV", that the generals who took part in the coup of 2002 were still free and Chavez had not put them in prison, that Venezuela was the country that solved things in the most pacific way. He said he was no fan of the new reforms proposed by Chafvez but that it was the Venezuelan people who have to do the choice and that if the EU had to say sorry, it should only be for not condemning the coup of 2002.
I wonder if that guy remembers the bloody coups of February and November of 2002.
There was also (not in this order) one of the most useful helpers of Chavez: Spanish Willy Meyer Pleiter. He said the right in EU should stop messing up with Venezuela, that the EU should not
act before the events, that elections have been clean so far and that the EU should not intervene.
The Venezuelan ambassador in Brussels already declared the Chavez regime would see it as an interference by the EU if it were to approve a resolution about Venezuela (of course, unless the resolution says how wonderful Hugo Chávez is).
Italian Giusto Catania and Spanish Willy Meyer, euro-deputies from the extreme left, already declared their support for the regime and mentioned anything the EU would declare would be intervention... the usual stuff we hear from the extreme left about human rights in Belarus, Burma and so on.
Just a couple of hours to go for the real discussion...
These eurocrats work until late. At 23:45 they started to discuss about Venezuela. There were a handful of them plus the interpreters. 5 deputies talked very negatively about the current government and said they should start asking for forgiveness to the Venezuelan people for the way the EU has cooperated with Chávez. Marios Matsakis talked about the growing inequality, about Chavez portraying himself as saviour of the country, about the fact that when Fidel is dying the world is seeing a new Fidel appearing.
Jose Millan Mons was very negative towards the Chavez regime, he mentioned RCTV, Baduel, the insecurity, the fact that Chavez is insulting everyone and destabilizing the region, that he is a danger.
Alojz Peterle said Venezuela is getting away from the values of democracy and human rights
and that Chavez is a threat for the relationships between Europe and Venezuela and within Latin America and that Chavez is just promoting more power for one person, himself.
Jose Ribeiro Castro talked about the disasters of the socialism of Lenin and others in the XX
century and he asked himself if we would see another disaster now with the Socialism of the XXI Century, he talked about the violence against the students, the attacks against journalists, the closing of RCTV. He talked about the lack of social justice and the fact that when politicians start to talk about "popular power", they were usually actually dealing away with it.
He referred to the increase of violence in general, to the Colombian/Venezuelan conflict.
Marios Matsakis mentioned that in spite of the oil revenues, poverty as prevailing and social justice was worse, that when Fidel was dying in Cuba, the EU was witnessing a new Fidel being born in Venezuela, that the EU should ask itself if it should not ask for forgiveness to the Venezuelan people for having helped the Chavez regime through all those commissions and committees and he finally said the EU should say how sorry it was for Venezuela.
Luis Yáñez-Barnuevo García (moderate Socialist, PSOE) said the EU should not use words to provoke, that Chavez was reelected three times without any doubt (from his part, I suppose) and that Venezuela is not a dictatorship. He said dialog was necessary and big reforms could not be passed by a simple majority but by something like 70%. He mentioned that he is worried when he sees the increasing concentration of power, the deterioration of human rights and a phenomenon Europeans do not know: the so-called cadenas where people are forced to watch Chavez or his people talking not for minutes but for hours and where most of the population could not read (thus, I assume, "have to watch TV"). He said the EU should promote the dialog.
Now Chavez's people:
Alain Lipietz, left from the Green (there are "red" and "blue" versions of Green)
said when he was in 3 to 4 star hotels during his visits to Venezuela, the upper middle class
was talking there that there was no democracy, but he had "no right to see the public TV", that the generals who took part in the coup of 2002 were still free and Chavez had not put them in prison, that Venezuela was the country that solved things in the most pacific way. He said he was no fan of the new reforms proposed by Chafvez but that it was the Venezuelan people who have to do the choice and that if the EU had to say sorry, it should only be for not condemning the coup of 2002.
I wonder if that guy remembers the bloody coups of February and November of 2002.
There was also (not in this order) one of the most useful helpers of Chavez: Spanish Willy Meyer Pleiter. He said the right in EU should stop messing up with Venezuela, that the EU should not
act before the events, that elections have been clean so far and that the EU should not intervene.
I will add more to this tomorrow.
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